I got my bfp yesterday (yay!!) and If I'm reading my opk/bbt chart right, that's 10dpo. That seems early... does that mean I'm more likely to have twins? Or am i reading it wrong, and I have my dpo wrong? i had a cp last cycle so I'm not sure if that made it wonky.photos: my bfp from yesterday, my bbt... It looks to me like, according to BBT, you O'd on the 2nd of Nov. But the OPK says the 4th.. I think. If it was the 2nd then you may not have BDed within the time frame. When I was trying for my daughter 10 years ago I went by BBT and thought it was pretty accurate. I have heard the OPKs are really accurate, too, though so I don't know. Hiya, so I’m 7/8 dpo today… had positive opk on 17th and I had ovulation pain the same day so That’s why I say 7/8 dpo opk was negative the next day. I don’t check BBT but my Fitbit app shows a temp dip on 17th and then rise too. This month...Sep 16, 2019 · BBT rise day before positive OPK. March 18, 2023 | by lliiivvii1112. I’m on cycle 7 trying to conceive baby #1. My BBT was raised yesterday (98F) and I hadn’t got a positive OKP yet so I figured I missed my peek. Because I’m curious I continued taking OPKs and got a very dark positive this morning along with... Hey yeah as a few said you will likely ovulate today. Most often you will see day A. positive opk day B. Ovulation itself day C. Bbt Rise You may see some variance from this, sometimes it takes 2 days to see bbt rise or sometimes your LH surge may happen more than 24hrs before O. But generally the pattern is as listed above.If your ovulation test is positive, this means that your LH levels are above the threshold considered to be “surging” – meaning that ovulation will likely happen within 24-36 hours. At rest, typical LH levels for women are between 5-25 IU/L, and during the LH surge, they can peak up to 100+ IU/L. The most common and reliable threshold for ...You don't O on the day of a positive opk. It's 12-36 hours after the positive opk, so that's the reason for the low temps for now. Sometimes you can get a positive opk and not O.See last answer. Amme N. 28/02/2021 at 5:24 pm. After u ovulate you should have 3 consecutive rises in temp... this is mine this month so I know I’ve ovulated and have been strict with timing temp taking this month.. last month I was a bit wishy washy. Edited on 28/02/2021 at 5:25 pm by Amme N.Are you taking your BBT its the only real reliable way to tell if you have Ovulated. But if your getting highs then I would just keep having sex and hoping that you catch O even if you don't get a peak. I'm really sorry this is so frustrating for you.They are most effective when used together, because OPKs can tell you when ovulation is coming (usually) and BBT can confirm it happened. Not everyone ovulates 12-24 hours from their positive OPK, it can be up to 72 hours after and in around 20% of women (I’m one of them!) ovulation can actually occur prior to/ immediately after the OPK turns positive.Hey yeah as a few said you will likely ovulate today. Most often you will see day A. positive opk day B. Ovulation itself day C. Bbt Rise You may see some variance from this, sometimes it takes 2 days to see bbt rise or sometimes your LH surge may happen more than 24hrs before O. But generally the pattern is as listed above.Nov 13, 2017 · 13/11/2017 at 11:33 pm. Dont worry! It's all normal! The ovulation and the temp rise usually takes place a day or two after your first positive opk! Sometimes I only get one day of positive opks, sometimes two. Usually I get a temp rise the second day after the first opk. But once or twice it was in the third day! It's all ok and normal. I am using cheap OPK strips and Ovia. Ovia became much more accurate after the OPK's because I don't ovulate until day 19-20 (of a 32-34 day cycle). I don't think I'll temp because I'm one of those people who will obsess over it (same reason I can't count calories because it'd go downhill quickly). You don't O on the day of a positive opk. It's 12-36 hours after the positive opk, so that's the reason for the low temps for now. Sometimes you can get a positive opk and not O.According to my bbt and my CM, I should be most fertile today, but my daily OPK has been negative. I'm definitely over-thinking this, but it's because I don't think I ovulated at all last month - my chart never showed a sustained rise, my OPK was negative, and we had sex every day for 2 weeks and didn't get pregnant.So I have been charting temp and using OPKs. I'm a bit confused on the results so hoping somebody can let me know what's going on? I started taking OPKs on CD10 (I have consistent 28 day cycles). I was taking them twice a day. CD13 at 9 PM was negative and then CD14 at 12 PM noon the next day was finally...See last answer. Amme N. 28/02/2021 at 5:24 pm. After u ovulate you should have 3 consecutive rises in temp... this is mine this month so I know I’ve ovulated and have been strict with timing temp taking this month.. last month I was a bit wishy washy. Edited on 28/02/2021 at 5:25 pm by Amme N.Jackelbee3. don't bother with any pregnancy tests if your temp starts to decline. It should be elevated after ovulation and will decline steadily if AF is coming. Sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Good luck to you. Charting my BBT along with using the OPK have really helped me a lot. Jacks.Yesterday I OPK tested twice with a seemingly positive results (if not 100% it was really, really close). I OPK tested again this morning and the…Mar 2, 2018 · In the 3-5 days leading up to ovulation, your cervical mucus will become an egg white consistency, clear and stretchy. This is your fertile mucus and keeping track of it will help you to determine your fertile window. Height of cervix In the days before ovulation, your cervix will change position and shape to help the sperm travel to the ... Oct 3, 2017 · When using BBT to try and conceive, Choi says the key is to make sure to have sex starting several days before the anticipated temperature rise. On the other hand, Choi says, OPKs test for the spike in luteinizing hormone (LH) that precedes ovulation by a day or two. OPK and BBT not aligning. Wondering if anyone ever has their BBT and OPK not match up. I use clear blue digital advanced and I got the static smiley on Saturday 4/1. But my BBT didn’t rise until Saturday 4/8, so fertility friend has ovulation day being Friday 4/7. I had ewcm that Friday to Sunday 4/7-4/9.Jun 20, 2022 · Hey yeah as a few said you will likely ovulate today. Most often you will see day A. positive opk day B. Ovulation itself day C. Bbt Rise You may see some variance from this, sometimes it takes 2 days to see bbt rise or sometimes your LH surge may happen more than 24hrs before O. But generally the pattern is as listed above. CD 14: 96.94 CD 15: 97.11 CD 16: 97.18 CD 17: 96.81 CD 18 (first positive OPK): 97.08 CD 19: 97.18 CD 20: 97.18 CD 21 (today): 97.26 Is it possible I ovulated the same day as first positive so the CD 17 reading was the dip, and then every day since then has been a little higher? In order to "prove" ovulation yes a rise in temps is needed but my OBGyn seems to think that the opks tests are the best standard for tracking ovulation. Also keep track of cervical mucus, that helps too. If you have a 30 day cycle I would start testing one opk a day starting around day 12 and then do twice a day on days 14/15 (or whatever days ...It is now Thursday (CD24) but by BBT has not risen - it has in fact been going down! What is happening and is there still a chance I can ovulate since my BBT hasn’t shifted? My BBT cycle last month indicated a temp shift immediately after ovulation on CD20 (didn’t use OPK last month). I’m quite worried I didn’t ovulate this month. Hi all, I'm new here. I'm almost 35 and we've been TTC for 9 months. We usually BD the few days before I get a positive OPK, the day I get a positive OPK, and usually the day after. Well, I started temping 3 months ago and realized there are 4-5 days between my positive OPK's and my temp shift. So when...Between oversleeping one day, some sleep deprivation, heavy drinking one night, indiscernible OPK results, and using the least-adored BBT on TB, I'm basically just crossing my fingers at this point. Thought the temp would go up today for O yesterday but it went down so I'm hoping O today for pretty good timing. Jul 7, 2020 at 9:39 PM. I would count ovulation 12-36 hrs after your Peak result. Thats how I've always done it and I've been successful. I continue to have positive opk for 1 or 2 days after the peak one but i know LH is coming down at that point. And i would BD on ovulation day and the next 2 or 3 days after as well.Apr 21, 2023 · A BBT spike (or progesterone testing) will show that ovulation did actually happen. So it's possible that while you're getting a positive OPK, you may not actually be ovulating when you think you are. If you do eventually get a BBT increase, it could mean that your body is trying again and successfully ovulating the 2nd time. Really considering giving up on OPKs: Only tried OPK strips so far and find it super annoying that you can't test with FMU. I think it is absolutely… BBT shows AFTER O. (You don't get your change on BBT until after you have already O). OPK advised 24-36 hours PRIOR to O. By using OPK and BBT, you should forecast your O date with the OPK and verify you did O via BBT. Whenever you get a few minutes (okay, like 20 or so), I recommend checking out peeonastick.com. This is a very thorough website ... Jun 20, 2022 · Personally I do both. Opk predicts BBT confirms. Of the two I like bbt more. I don’t find it difficult at all, but I’m still ttc#1 so no one wakes me up at night. Just set an alarm for the same time every morning and keep the thermometer and your phone or a pencil beside the BBT is more "accurate" in that it is the only of the two that will actually confirm that you've ovulated. Unfortunately, it only tells you after the fact. It is possible to get a +OPK and not ovulate, which is why OPKs are not always accurate. I would recommend using both--Use OPKs until you get a +, then have sex every day (if possible) until ...I looked up this question earlier today, actually. I am having a similar thing; fatigue, o-pains, acne, +opk's, temp low, and I mean what my temp is usually w/o the clomid and progesterone. What I found out was that you can have +opk's and still not ovulate. Anyway, you can have the LH surge and not ovulate if your egg isn't fully ready to let go.Mar 2, 2018 · In the 3-5 days leading up to ovulation, your cervical mucus will become an egg white consistency, clear and stretchy. This is your fertile mucus and keeping track of it will help you to determine your fertile window. Height of cervix In the days before ovulation, your cervix will change position and shape to help the sperm travel to the ... Dec 15, 2017 · Hi All. Husband and I started TTC mid oct 2017. Came off oral contraceptives in 1st week of Oct 2017. Have started using OPK and BBT this cycle (currently on cd16 and last cycle was 29 days, previous cycle was 23 days) but still havent had a positive OPK result (clear blue pink tests) which i check first thing in the morning as the pack tells you to. It looks to me like, according to BBT, you O'd on the 2nd of Nov. But the OPK says the 4th.. I think. If it was the 2nd then you may not have BDed within the time frame. When I was trying for my daughter 10 years ago I went by BBT and thought it was pretty accurate. I have heard the OPKs are really accurate, too, though so I don't know. Advertisement ...Nov 11, 2017 · I've been reading online that some women don't get their temp rise until 3 or 4 days after a positive opk. Praying this happens to me. Plan on continuing with OPKs and bd'ing every 2 or 3 days ... By using OPK and BBT, you should forecast your O date with the OPK and verify you did O via BBT. Whenever you get a few minutes (okay, like 20 or so), I recommend checking out peeonastick.com. This is a very thorough website that will give you a ton of information on CM, BBT, OPK, etc.Haha! Don't even ask when I start xmas prep. Still camping but I lost my group for a bit. My temp was pretty consistent this morning. I missed my alarm but the birds woke me up. Using the OPK in the camp bathroom was an experience but it was darker from the day before though still not a clear positive. CS/Q: I'm glad I started temping and using ...Every cycle I have been able to measure the LH surge, and also the temp increase when I have ovulated and drop in BBT when AF is arriving. My FP/Ovulation has been all over the place though, so literally I measure OPK 2 times a day just to make sure I don't miss it. The range has been 18-37 days for ovulation - yup, that's a lot of OPKs! Really considering giving up on OPKs: Only tried OPK strips so far and find it super annoying that you can't test with FMU. I think it is absolutely… Hi all, I'm new here. I'm almost 35 and we've been TTC for 9 months. We usually BD the few days before I get a positive OPK, the day I get a positive OPK, and usually the day after. Well, I started temping 3 months ago and realized there are 4-5 days between my positive OPK's and my temp shift. So when... EWCM is not an indicator of ovulation, just that it should be happening soon. 2. It could be seminal or arousal fluids if you have BD in the last 12-24 hours. Most women know this but its worth saying as most couples tracking CM are also BD regularly around the time they think they are going to ovulate. 3. Sep 19, 2012 · A Discussion on OPK’s vs BBT Charting. Many women become confused when their OPK’s (Ovulation Predictor Kits) and BBT’s (Basal Body Temperatures) don’t agree on the day of ovulation- understandably so. This is one of the more confusing topics I’ve researched! We’ll file this under “advanced topics”. Here’s why. It is now Thursday (CD24) but by BBT has not risen - it has in fact been going down! What is happening and is there still a chance I can ovulate since my BBT hasn’t shifted? My BBT cycle last month indicated a temp shift immediately after ovulation on CD20 (didn’t use OPK last month). I’m quite worried I didn’t ovulate this month.A Discussion on OPK’s vs BBT Charting. Many women become confused when their OPK’s (Ovulation Predictor Kits) and BBT’s (Basal Body Temperatures) don’t agree on the day of ovulation- understandably so. This is one of the more confusing topics I’ve researched! We’ll file this under “advanced topics”. Here’s why.BBT is more "accurate" in that it is the only of the two that will actually confirm that you've ovulated. Unfortunately, it only tells you after the fact. It is possible to get a +OPK and not ovulate, which is why OPKs are not always accurate. I would recommend using both--Use OPKs until you get a +, then have sex every day (if possible) until ... Jackelbee3. don't bother with any pregnancy tests if your temp starts to decline. It should be elevated after ovulation and will decline steadily if AF is coming. Sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Good luck to you. Charting my BBT along with using the OPK have really helped me a lot. Jacks.Mar 2, 2018 · In the 3-5 days leading up to ovulation, your cervical mucus will become an egg white consistency, clear and stretchy. This is your fertile mucus and keeping track of it will help you to determine your fertile window. Height of cervix In the days before ovulation, your cervix will change position and shape to help the sperm travel to the ... TWW Buddies! Ovulation 26th August. by NewGirl88. 67. Browse more posts.I got my bfp yesterday (yay!!) and If I'm reading my opk/bbt chart right, that's 10dpo. That seems early... does that mean I'm more likely to have twins? Or am i reading it wrong, and I have my dpo wrong? i had a cp last cycle so I'm not sure if that made it wonky.photos: my bfp from yesterday, my bbt... Jackelbee3. don't bother with any pregnancy tests if your temp starts to decline. It should be elevated after ovulation and will decline steadily if AF is coming. Sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Good luck to you. Charting my BBT along with using the OPK have really helped me a lot. Jacks.Apr 21, 2023 · A BBT spike (or progesterone testing) will show that ovulation did actually happen. So it's possible that while you're getting a positive OPK, you may not actually be ovulating when you think you are. If you do eventually get a BBT increase, it could mean that your body is trying again and successfully ovulating the 2nd time. Nov 12, 2019 at 2:22 PM. A lot women (including myself!!) think we ovulate on average 12-36 hours after our PEAK on our OPK. This is not necessarily true. "On average, ovulation occurs 24 hours after the first positive ovulation test. That means that you could have several days of positive tests in a row, but already ovulate after the first day."Jackelbee3. don't bother with any pregnancy tests if your temp starts to decline. It should be elevated after ovulation and will decline steadily if AF is coming. Sounds like you are doing all of the right things. Good luck to you. Charting my BBT along with using the OPK have really helped me a lot. Jacks.Sep 16, 2011 · The egg could drop anywhere from 12-48+ hours after you get your last +OPK. And, to make it more confusing, sometimes your body can ramp up, have the LH surge (you get a +OPK) and then for some ... Yes absolutely. If you took the photo 4 times it would probably spit out 4 different numbers 😂 realistically the numbers don’t mean anything, all you’re looking for is a positive OPK, where the test line is as dark or darker than the control line. Don't drink a lot of liquid during the two hours before testing. Too much liquid dilutes your urine, which could make it more difficult to detect the surge. Read the results within 10 minutes. A positive result won't disappear, but some negative results may later display a faint second color band that would be misleading. Using a salivary ...I am using cheap OPK strips and Ovia. Ovia became much more accurate after the OPK's because I don't ovulate until day 19-20 (of a 32-34 day cycle). I don't think I'll temp because I'm one of those people who will obsess over it (same reason I can't count calories because it'd go downhill quickly).Advertisement ... Oh and by the looks of things, you don't necessarily need a BBT but I've really loved having more accurate charts. :) I got my Life Brand BBT at Shoppers Drug Mart. I change them every 3-4 months so I can rely on my temps being accurate. I don't use a new BBT until the next cycle though.Is Your BBT More Accurate Than An OPK? Experts Weigh In Life Manuel Findeis/Fotolia Checking Your BBT Versus Using An OPK — Which Is More Accurate? by Caroline Shannon-Karasik Oct. 14, 2017...Every cycle I have been able to measure the LH surge, and also the temp increase when I have ovulated and drop in BBT when AF is arriving. My FP/Ovulation has been all over the place though, so literally I measure OPK 2 times a day just to make sure I don't miss it. The range has been 18-37 days for ovulation - yup, that's a lot of OPKs!Hi All. Husband and I started TTC mid oct 2017. Came off oral contraceptives in 1st week of Oct 2017. Have started using OPK and BBT this cycle (currently on cd16 and last cycle was 29 days, previous cycle was 23 days) but still havent had a positive OPK result (clear blue pink tests) which i check first thing in the morning as the pack tells you to.A Discussion on OPK’s vs BBT Charting. Many women become confused when their OPK’s (Ovulation Predictor Kits) and BBT’s (Basal Body Temperatures) don’t agree on the day of ovulation- understandably so. This is one of the more confusing topics I’ve researched! We’ll file this under “advanced topics”. Here’s why.Basically, your negative OPK could mean several things. 1) You haven't gotten your surge yet. 2) You have gotten your surge (probably yesterday) and are ovulating today, but for whatever reason didn't ever see the positive OPK. That could be because you didn't test yesterday, or you may have a really short surge.Sep 7, 2022 · Ovulation test strips are urine tests that you use at home to detect impending ovulation. They work by detecting the luteinizing hormone (LH), which increases to prompt the release of the egg during ovulation. Sometimes they are called ovulation predictor kits (OPKs), or simply ovulation tests. Feb 28, 2021 · See last answer. Amme N. 28/02/2021 at 5:24 pm. After u ovulate you should have 3 consecutive rises in temp... this is mine this month so I know I’ve ovulated and have been strict with timing temp taking this month.. last month I was a bit wishy washy. Edited on 28/02/2021 at 5:25 pm by Amme N. 13/11/2017 at 11:33 pm. Dont worry! It's all normal! The ovulation and the temp rise usually takes place a day or two after your first positive opk! Sometimes I only get one day of positive opks, sometimes two. Usually I get a temp rise the second day after the first opk. But once or twice it was in the third day! It's all ok and normal.What is the difference between BBT and ovulation predictor kits (OPK)? An ovulation predictor kit measures LH levels, which surge before ovulation. Therefore, OPKs can detect your fertile window in advance, before ovulating. Ideally, we should start having sex before the surge, and when the test becomes positive, we can increase the frequency.I am using cheap OPK strips and Ovia. Ovia became much more accurate after the OPK's because I don't ovulate until day 19-20 (of a 32-34 day cycle). I don't think I'll temp because I'm one of those people who will obsess over it (same reason I can't count calories because it'd go downhill quickly).Every cycle I have been able to measure the LH surge, and also the temp increase when I have ovulated and drop in BBT when AF is arriving. My FP/Ovulation has been all over the place though, so literally I measure OPK 2 times a day just to make sure I don't miss it. The range has been 18-37 days for ovulation - yup, that's a lot of OPKs!Jan 2, 2014 · You don't O on the day of a positive opk. It's 12-36 hours after the positive opk, so that's the reason for the low temps for now. Sometimes you can get a positive opk and not O. Jan 2, 2014 · You don't O on the day of a positive opk. It's 12-36 hours after the positive opk, so that's the reason for the low temps for now. Sometimes you can get a positive opk and not O. Haha! Don't even ask when I start xmas prep. Still camping but I lost my group for a bit. My temp was pretty consistent this morning. I missed my alarm but the birds woke me up. Using the OPK in the camp bathroom was an experience but it was darker from the day before though still not a clear positive. CS/Q: I'm glad I started temping and using ...It is now Thursday (CD24) but by BBT has not risen - it has in fact been going down! What is happening and is there still a chance I can ovulate since my BBT hasn’t shifted? My BBT cycle last month indicated a temp shift immediately after ovulation on CD20 (didn’t use OPK last month). I’m quite worried I didn’t ovulate this month. Yesterday I OPK tested twice with a seemingly positive results (if not 100% it was really, really close). I OPK tested again this morning and the…
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It looks to me like, according to BBT, you O'd on the 2nd of Nov. But the OPK says the 4th.. I think. If it was the 2nd then you may not have BDed within the time frame. When I was trying for my daughter 10 years ago I went by BBT and thought it was pretty accurate. I have heard the OPKs are really accurate, too, though so I don't know.Jun 20, 2022 · Hey yeah as a few said you will likely ovulate today. Most often you will see day A. positive opk day B. Ovulation itself day C. Bbt Rise You may see some variance from this, sometimes it takes 2 days to see bbt rise or sometimes your LH surge may happen more than 24hrs before O. But generally the pattern is as listed above. Jan 4, 2017 · Even with a slow rise, a temperature pattern usually becomes apparent after a few days. It can be helpful to consult with other fertility signs such as cervical mucus and cervical position. Ovulation is most likely to occur on the last day of fertile cervical mucus. But with a slow rise it can sometimes be difficult to pinpoint the exact day of ... Women who ovulate and check their basal body temperature (BBT) chart will probably notice a small, but sustained rise in temperature after ovulation, especially after a few months of experience with close monitoring. A woman who is not ovulating will not have that small temperature change. Tracking BBT in addition to cervical mucus can be helpful.Ideally, you should use one that is accurate to 1/10th (98.6) of a degree if you measure in Fahrenheit or 1/100th (37.00) of a degree in Celsius. Use the same thermometer throughout the cycle. If you buy a new one, start using it on day one of the next cycle. Taking your BBT is not too hard.By using OPK and BBT, you should forecast your O date with the OPK and verify you did O via BBT. Whenever you get a few minutes (okay, like 20 or so), I recommend checking out peeonastick.com. This is a very thorough website that will give you a ton of information on CM, BBT, OPK, etc.Are you taking your BBT its the only real reliable way to tell if you have Ovulated. But if your getting highs then I would just keep having sex and hoping that you catch O even if you don't get a peak. I'm really sorry this is so frustrating for you. Jun 20, 2022 · Hey yeah as a few said you will likely ovulate today. Most often you will see day A. positive opk day B. Ovulation itself day C. Bbt Rise You may see some variance from this, sometimes it takes 2 days to see bbt rise or sometimes your LH surge may happen more than 24hrs before O. But generally the pattern is as listed above. Bbt Spike But No Peak Fertility On Opk. K. Karter2013. Mar 23, 2015 at 10:39 AM. I have been TTC since December and still no luck. I started temping this cycle and got a big temp spike this morning. I am using clearblue advanced opk's and I have only gotten two flashing faces which means high fertility, but I haven't gotten a peak fertility yet.I am still in shock - I got a bfp today. I was desperately hoping I would get af soon (I have only had one pp period so far) so we could officially start ttc with all the bells and whistles (opk, bbt, supplements, etc). I was actually excited for the cramps I have been feeling - I figured she was right around the corner! I don't know how long I will get to hang around here - but for the moment ...May 6, 2020 · Ovulation predictor kit (OPK) Ovulation predictor kits look just like the home pregnancy tests but they determine when you are ovulating instead. Unfortunately, different brands vary in their accuracy. If you are finding positive tests with the regular "pee-on-the-stick" kind, then you don't really need the fertility monitor. Dec 15, 2017 · Hi All. Husband and I started TTC mid oct 2017. Came off oral contraceptives in 1st week of Oct 2017. Have started using OPK and BBT this cycle (currently on cd16 and last cycle was 29 days, previous cycle was 23 days) but still havent had a positive OPK result (clear blue pink tests) which i check first thing in the morning as the pack tells you to. Sep 7, 2022 · Ovulation test strips are urine tests that you use at home to detect impending ovulation. They work by detecting the luteinizing hormone (LH), which increases to prompt the release of the egg during ovulation. Sometimes they are called ovulation predictor kits (OPKs), or simply ovulation tests. Hi all, I'm new here. I'm almost 35 and we've been TTC for 9 months. We usually BD the few days before I get a positive OPK, the day I get a positive OPK, and usually the day after. Well, I started temping 3 months ago and realized there are 4-5 days between my positive OPK's and my temp shift. So when...By using OPK and BBT, you should forecast your O date with the OPK and verify you did O via BBT. Whenever you get a few minutes (okay, like 20 or so), I recommend checking out peeonastick.com. This is a very thorough website that will give you a ton of information on CM, BBT, OPK, etc..